Rutger Bregman in conversation with Terrence McNally - an in-studio interview at Live Talks Los Angeles. Bregman discussed his new book, "Utopia for Realists: How We Can Build the Ideal World" (Little, Brown and Company/ Hachette BookGroup).Bregman is a journalist at The Correspondent, and one of Europe's most prominent young thinkers. He has published four books on history, philosophy, and economics. His History of Progress was awarded the Belgian Liberales prize for best nonfiction book of 2013, and Bregman has twice been nominated for the European Press Prize, and he recently gave a well received TED Talk (April 2017 in Vancouver).